Tråden startades av: Fjongen  2014-10-21 19:43:31
MD80 
Finns det många MD80 kvar i trafik i Sverige ?

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Sasse
2015-03-03 16:58:35
SV: MD80
Sluta att klippa och klistra härinne för fn!

Om markanden vore mer aktiv för en cargo MD80 version skulle man kunna bygga en ny typ av containers!
Nedan antal möjliga MD80 cargo converteringar!
510 total in service
395 std

Finns viljan är det inte allt ngt långskott.
ATP F50 osv osv osv. Inga cargoplan från början.

Nej börja bygga om MD80 till cargo, sätt winglets samtidigt på kärrorna.
@Sasse
2015-03-03 16:46:38
SV: MD80
MD80's body diameter and CG-loading range could be inadequate. (MZFW - OEW) is probably not enough for a freighter considering the weight of volume limited payload at typical ULD-loaded cargo densities. My guess is that (MZFW-OEW) is the issues. To increase MZFW retroactively is a major structural modification, assuming it can be done at all.

The MD80 is a "warmed up" DC9 that was a marginal airplane to start with and no money was spent on making the MD-80 any better. Failure to develop products that the airlines wanted ultimately resulted in the failure of the McDD company.

Re : re Ante
2015-03-03 11:50:57
SV: MD80
Därför de apar efter Boeing nu istället eftersom inte MD 80 håller längre.
Inget nytt under himmelen alltså ha ha! ;-)
Sasse
2015-03-03 11:43:20
SV: MD80
Varför mod. man inte MD80 flygplan till rena cargokärror?
Sträckan framför vingen är ju lång och bra så att
inte ramp/astmaskiner mm kör in i vingen.
Magnus
2015-03-03 09:52:30
SV: MD80
Dom få MD80 som landar på Arlanda är mestadels från ukraina som skall på service hos FD PAM. Men efter att konkursen så har inte jag sätt någon MD80 på Arlanda framför allt inte MD SAS målning.
Ante III
2015-02-08 20:57:55
SV: MD80
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19960706-0
Ante
2015-02-08 18:49:33
SV: MD80
MD80 har ingen risk att få "turbindelar i huvdet" i aft cabin.
Däremot har det ju hänt en gång i USA att första steget på kompessorn, Fanrotorn´s hub separerade vid start. Ngn pax förlorade sitt/sina ben.
Efter denna händelse vart det AD nötter kors och tvärs w.w

Det visade sig att Volvo Flygmotor gjutit x antal Fanhubbar åt P&W.
Vid tillverkningen skadade bearbetningsverktyg hålen för tirodpinnarna på några av hubbarna.
P&W godkände att man gnistade ut skadade vektyg.
Tyvärr lade detta grunden för sprickor i Fanhubbarna senare :(

Volvo fick aldrig skulden för detta då P&W g.k reperationen.

900 T-16
2015-02-08 17:59:25
SV: MD80
Airbus har väl aldrig haft någon modell med häckmotorer eller?
Mysko
2015-02-04 01:45:12
SV: MD80
Ja tyst och fin om man inte satt längst bak och utan sikt med ettsatansljud i öronen under stigning.

Sen var man ju livrädd för att få en turbindel i skallen.... Det sistnämnda var ju risken liten för...
Re: Ante
2015-02-03 18:40:51
SV: MD80
Men om USA uppfann den hemskheten varför apar då Europa (Airbus) efter originalet, ha ha ha!
Sv: A.V. Roe
2015-02-03 18:07:34
SV: MD80
Buy British?

Nobody did. Nobody does.
Ante
2015-02-02 19:50:54
SV: MD80
BAC 1-11, VC10 DC9 osv osv är alla grundade på Caravelle conceptet.
Engine aft!. Tyst och fin cabin.
B737 konceptet är grundat på att störa så många pax som möjligt med
tröttande motorljud. USA uppfann huvudvärken dvs.
Sluta jiddra nu barn....
A.V. Roe
2015-02-02 18:27:38
SV: MD80
DC-9 var baserad på BAC 1-11, SÅ DET SÅ!

Boeing 727 var en kopia på Hawker- Siddley Trident

Lockheed Electra var en kopia av Vickers Vanguard


Amerikanarna har hävdat mycket genom tiderna, men det mesta är stulna idéer!



BUY BRITISH!
Hoppla
2014-10-26 11:13:14
SV: MD80
The MD-95 traces its history back to 1983 when McDonnell Douglas outlined a study named the DC-9-90. During the early 1980s, as production of the DC-9 family moved away from the smaller Series 30 towards the larger Super 80 (later redesignated MD-80) variants, Douglas proposed a smaller version of the DC-9 to fill the gap left by the DC-9-30. Dubbed the DC-9-90, the aircraft was revealed in February 1983 and was to be some 25 ft 4 in (7.72 m) shorter than what was then the DC-9-81 giving it an overall length of 122 ft 6 in (37.34 m) The aircraft was proposed with a 17,000 lbf (76 kN) thrust version of the JT8D-200 series engine, although the CFM56-3 was also being considered. Sized to seat up to 117 passengers, the DC-9-90 was to be equipped with the DC-9's wing with 2 ft (0.61 m) tip extensions, rather than the more heavily modified increased area of the MD-80. The aircraft had a design range of around 1,500 nmi (2,800 km), with an option to increase to 2,000 nmi (3,700 km), and a gross weight of 112,000 lb (51,000 kg). The DC-9-90 was designed to meet the needs of the newly deregulated air transport industry in the United States, however, the development of the short fuselage MD-80 was postponed as a result of the downturn in business in the recession of the early 1980s. When McDonnell Douglas did develop a smaller version of the MD-80, it simply shrunk the aircraft to create the MD-87, rather than offer a lower thrust lighter aircraft that was more comparable to the DC-9-30. With its relatively high MTOW and powerful engines, the MD-87 essentially became a special mission aircraft and could not compete with the all new 100-seaters that were being developed. Although an excellent aircraft for specialized roles, the MD-87 has not really sold on its own, and tends to rely heavily on its commonality factor which has generally limited sales to existing MD-80 operators.[4]

During early 1991, McDonnell Douglas revealed that it was again considering the development of a specialized 100-seat version of the MD-80 family, which was initially dubbed the MD-87-105 (105 seats). The new lighter aircraft was to be some 8 ft (2.4 m) shorter than the MD-87, and would be powered by engines in the 16,000–17,000 lbf (71–76 kN) thrust class.[4]

McDonnell Douglas, Pratt & Whitney, and the China National Aero-Technology Import Export Agency signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a 105-seat version of the MD-80. Then at the 1991 Paris Airshow, McDonnell Douglas announced the development of the new 105-seat version, now designated MD-95.[4] The "MD-95" name was selected to reflect the anticipated year deliveries would begin.[5] McDonnell Douglas first offered the airliner for sale in 1994.[5][6]With an overall length of 122 ft 5 in (37.31 m), and a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 118,400 lb (53,700 kg), what McDonnell Douglas was proposing at that stage was very similar to the DC-9-90 design of 1983.

In early 1994, the MD-95 re-emerged as quite similar to the DC-9-30. Indeed the aircraft's specification in terms of weight, dimensions, and fuel capacity are almost identical. The major changes included a fuselage "shrink" back to 119 ft 4 in (36.37 m) length (same as the DC-9-30), and the reversion to the original DC-9 wing of 93 ft 5 in (28.47 m) span. At the time of the redefinition, McDonnell Douglas said that it expected the MD-95 to grow into a family of aircraft with the capability of increased range and seating capacity.[4]

The MD-95 was developed to satisfy the market need to replace early DC-9 models, then approaching 30 years old. The MD-95 project was a complete overhaul of the system, going back to the original DC-9-30design and reinventing it for modern transport with new engines, cockpit and other more modern systems.[5] Historically, aircraft shrinks have sold poorly; examples of such aircraft in addition to the MD-87 include theBoeing 747SP, Boeing 737-600, Airbus A318, and Airbus A340-200.

Longtime McDonnell Douglas customerScandinavian Airlines System (SAS) chose the Boeing 737-600 for its 100-seater over the MD-95 in March 1995.[5] Then in October 1995, United States discount carrier ValuJetsigned an order for 50 MD-95s, plus 50 options.[5] McDonnell Douglas presidentHarry Stonecipher felt that launching MD-95 production on the basis of this small order was only a small risk, explaining that further orders would "take a while longer".[7] The ValuJet order was the only order received for some two years.[8]
sv Dc-driver
2014-10-26 09:54:11
SV: MD80
DC9-51 är en förlängd version av DC-41. B717 har en kort kropp, som MD87.
Dina "ett par tusen timmar" MD-87 har tydligen inte tillfört dig några kunskaper.
Satt du på toaletten?
svetlov
2014-10-25 21:57:44
SV: MD80
hur vet du det ?
Dc-driver
2014-10-25 21:56:19
SV: MD80
B717 har "samma" flygkropp som DC9-51, inte samma som MD87 alltså, som är en förkortad kropp av en MD81/82/83.

Slå er trötta kids men så är det.

/ett par tusen timmar MD87
DC-10
2014-10-25 17:16:44
SV: MD80
@DC-12 I så fall vilken version av DC-9 är B-717 baserad på?
Varför skulle man upphotta en DC-9 när man har MD-87?
B-717 är baserad på MD-87!!
Per L.
2014-10-25 10:14:37
SV: MD80
MD-81

The MD-81 (or as it was originally known the DC-9 Super 81 or DC-9-81) was the first production model of the MD-80, and apart from the MD-87, the differences between the various long body MD-80 variants is relatively minor. The four long body models (MD-81, MD-82, MD-83, and MD-88) only differ from each other in having different engine variants, fuel capacities, and weights. The MD-88 and later build versions of the other models have more up-to-date flight decks featuring for example EFIS.

Dimensions: The basic "long body" MD-80 versions (MD-81, MD-82, MD-83, and MD-88) have an overall length of 147 feet 10 inches (45.06 m), and a fuselage length of 136 feet 5 inches (41.58 m) that is 4.62 m longer than the DC-9-50 and 13.51 m longer than the initial DC-9, the Series 10. Wingspan was also increased by 4.4 m in comparison with earlier DC-9s at 107 feet 10.2 inches (32.873 m). The aircraft's passenger cabin, from cockpit door to aft bulkhead, is 101 feet 0 inches (30.78 m) long and, as with all versions of the DC-9, has a maximum cabin width (trim-to-trim) of 123.7 inches (3.14 m).[17]

Powerplant: The initial production version of the MD-80 was the Pratt and Whitney JT8D-209 18,500 lbf (82 kN) thrust powered MD-81. Later build MD-81s have been delivered with more powerful JT8D-217 and -219 engines.

APU: All versions of the MD-80 are equipped with an AlliedSignal (Garrett) GTCP85-98D APU as standard, which is located in the aft fuselage.

Performance: Standard MTOW on the MD-81 is 140,000 lb (64,000 kg) with the option to increase to 142,000 lb (64,000 kg). Fuel capacity is 5,840 US gallons (22,100 L), and typical range, with 155 passengers, is 1,565 nmi.[3]

Flight Deck: The MD-80 is equipped with a two crew flightdeck similar to that on the DC-9 from which it evolved. Later models could be equipped to a higher specification with EFIS displays in place of the traditional analogue instruments, TCAS, windshear detection, etc. An EFIS retrofit to non-EFIS equipped aircraft is possible.

Cabin: Typical passenger cabin seating arrangements include:[3]
A mixed-class, with aft full-service galley, configuration for a total of 135 passengers with 12 first class, four-abreast 36-inch seat pitch.123 economy-class passengers, five-abreast, 32 in pitch.All-economy layout for 155 passengers, five-abreast, 32- and 33-inch pitch.A typical high-density layout is for 167 one class (i.e., Airtours).
Undercarriage: All versions of the MD-80 are equipped with a tricycle undercarriage, featuring a twin nose unit with spray deflector and twin main units with rock deflectors. The MD-80T, developed for the Chinese, differs in that the main units are each fitted with a four-wheel double main bogey undercarriage to reduce pavement loading.[3][16]

Aerodynamic Improvements: From mid-1987, new MD-87-style low-drag "beaver" tail cones were introduced on all Series of MD-80s, reducing drag and hence improving fuel burn. It would seem that some operators have been modifying the old DC-9-style cones on earlier-build MD-80s to the new low-drag style. SAS is one airline that has done this, citing both the improved economics as well as cosmetic improvement for the modification.[3]

MD-81 timeline[edit]
Formal launch: October 1977.
First flight: October 18, 1979.
FAA certification: August 25, 1980.
First delivery: September 13, 1980 to Swissair
Entry into service: October 10, 1980 with Swissair on a flight from Zurich to Heathrow.
Last delivery: June 24, 1994 to JAL Domestic

MD-82

Announced on April 16, 1979, the MD-82 (DC-9-82) was a new MD-80 variant with similar dimensions to those of the MD-81 but equipped with more powerful engines. The MD-82 was intended for operation from 'hot and high' airports but also offered greater payload/range when in use at 'standard' airfields. American Airlines is the world's largest operator of the MD-82, with at one point over 300 MD-82s in the fleet.

Originally certificated with 20,000 lbf (89 kN) thrust JT8D-217s, a -217A-powered MD-82 was certificated in mid-1982 and became available that year. The new version featured a higher MTOW (149,500 lb (67,800 kg)), while the JT8D-217As had a guaranteed take-off thrust at temperature of up to 29 degrees C or 5,000 ft (1,500 m) altitude. The JT8D-217C engines were also offered on the MD-82, giving improved sfc. Several operators took delivery of the -219-powered MD-82s, while Balair ordered its MD-82s powered by the lower-thrust -209 engine.[3][16]

The MD-82 features an increased standard MTOW initially to 147,000 lb (67,000 kg), and this was later increased to 149,500 lb (67,800 kg). Standard fuel capacity is the same as that of the MD-81, 5,840 US gal (22,100 l), and typical range with 155 passengers is 2,050 nautical miles (3,800 km).[3][16]

MD-82 timeline[edit]
Announced/go-ahead: April 16, 1979.
First flight: January 8, 1981.
FAA certification: July 29, 1981.
First delivery: August 5, 1981 to Republic Airlines.
Entry into service: August, 1981 with Republic Airlines.
Last delivery: November 17, 1997 to U-Land Airlines of Taiwan.

The MD-82 was assembled under license in Shanghai by the Shanghai Aviation Industrial Corporation (SAIC) since November 1986; the sub-assemblies were delivered by McDonnell Douglas in kit form.[3] China had begun a pure cargo version design, designated as Y-13, but the project was subsequently cancelled with the conclusion of the license assembly of MD-82/90 in China.[20][21]

MD-83

The MD-83 (DC-9-83) is a longer range version of the basic MD-81/82 with higher weights, more powerful engines, and increased fuel capacity.

Powerplant: Compared to earlier models, the MD-83 is equipped with slightly more powerful 21,000 lbf (93 kN) thrust Pratt and Whitney JT8D-219s as standard.

Performance: The MD-83 features increased fuel capacity as standard (to 6,970 US gal (26,400 l)), which is carried in two 565 US gal (2,140 l) auxiliary tanks located fore and aft of the centre section. The aircraft also has higher operating weights, with MTOW increased to 160,000 lb (73,000 kg) and MLW to 139,500 lb (63,300 kg). Typical range for the MD-83 with 155 passengers is around 2,504 nautical miles (4,637 km). To cope with the higher operating weights, the MD-83 incorporates strengthened landing gear including new wheels, tires, and brakes, changes to the wing skins, front spar web and elevator spar cap, and strengthened floor beams and panels to carry the auxiliary fuel tanks. From MD-80 line number 1194, an MD-81 delivered in September 1985, it is understood that all MD-80s have the same basic wing structure and in theory could be converted to MD-83 standard.[3]

MD-83 timeline[edit]
Announced/go-ahead: January 31, 1983.
First flight: December 17, 1984.
FAA certification: October 17, 1985 (MTOW 149,500 lb (67,800 kg)). MTOW of 160,000 lb (73,000 kg) certificated November 4, 1985.
First delivery: February, 1985 to Alaska Airlines - initially as -82 powered by -217A engines and certificated as MD-82s. Alaska Airlines' first four aircraft were subsequently re-engined and re-certificated as MD-83s.
Entry into service: February, 1985 with Alaska Airlines.
Last delivery: December 28, 1999 to TWA.

MD-87

In January 1985 McDonnell Douglas announced that it was to produce a shorter fuselage MD-80 development aircraft, designated the MD-87 (DC-9-87), which would seat between 109 and 130 passengers depending upon configuration. The designation was intended to indicate its planned date of entry into service, 1987.

Dimensions: With an overall length of 130 feet 5 inches (39.75 m), the MD-87 is 17 feet 4 inches (5.28 m) shorter than the other MD-80s but is otherwise generally similar to them, employing the same engines, systems and flight deck. The MD-87 features modifications to its tail, with a fin extension above the tailplane. It also introduced a new low drag "beaver" tail cone, which became standard on all MD-80s.

Powerplant: The MD-87 was offered with either the 20,000 lbf (89 kN) thrust JT8D-217C or the 21,000 lbf (93 kN) thrust -219.

Performance: Two basic versions of the MD-87 were made available with either an MTOW of 140,000 lb (64,000 kg) and MLW of 128,000 lb (58,000 kg) or an MTOW of 149,000 lb (68,000 kg) and an MLW of 130,000 lb (59,000 kg). Fuel capacity is 5,840 US gallons (22,100 l), increasing to 6,970 US gallons (26,400 l) with the incorporation of two auxiliary fuel tanks. Typical range with 130 passengers, is 2,370 nautical miles (4,390 km) increasing to 2,900 nautical miles (5,400 km) with two auxiliary fuel tanks.

Cabin: The MD-87 provides typical mixed-class seating for 114 passengers or 130 in an all economy layout (five-abreast 31 in and 32 in seat pitch). The maximum seating, exit limited, is for 139 passengers.

MD-87 timeline[edit]
Announced/go-ahead: January 1985.
First flight: December 4, 1986.
FAA certification: October 21, 1987.
First delivery: November 27, 1987 to Austrian Airlines.[22]
Last delivery: March 27, 1992 to Scandinavian Airlines (SAS).

MD-88

The MD-88 was the last variant of the MD-80, which was launched on January 23, 1986 on the back of orders and options from Delta Air Lines for a total of 80 aircraft.

The MD-88 is, depending on specification, basically similar to the MD-82 or MD-83 except that it incorporates an EFIS cockpit instead of the more traditional analog flight deck of the other MD-80s. Other changes incorporated into the MD-88 include a wind shear warning system and general updating of the cabin interior/trim. These detail changes are relatively minor and were written back as standard on the MD-82/83. The wind shear warning system was offered as a standard option on all other MD-80s and has been made available for retrofitting on earlier aircraft including the DC-9.

Delta's earlier delivered MD-82s were upgraded to MD-88 specification. When McDonnell Douglas was asked why these aircraft were MD-88s and not MD-82s, they said that the customer, Delta Air Lines, thought that its specification was sufficiently different to warrant a new designation. MD-88 deliveries began in December 1987 and it entered service with Delta in January 1988.

Performance: The MD-88 has the same weights, range, and airfield performance as the other long-body aircraft (MD-82 and MD-83) and is powered by the same engines. MDC quotes a typical range for the MD-88 as 2,050 nautical miles (3,800 km) with 155 passengers. Range with 155 passenger is increased to 2,504 nautical miles (4,637 km) with two additional auxiliary fuel tanks (similar to the MD-83).

MD-88 timeline[edit]
Announced/go-ahead: January 23, 1986.
First flight: August 15, 1987.
FAA certification: December 8, 1987.
First delivery: December 19, 1987 to Delta Air Lines.
Entry into service: January 5, 1988 with Delta Air Lines.
Last delivery: June 25, 1997 to Onur Air.
DC-12
2014-10-25 09:52:44
SV: MD80
DC-10, B717 är en DC-9 NG ( Upphottad DC-9:a ) alltså ingen MD87:a
MD90
2014-10-25 09:05:35
SV: MD80
Men finns det inga MD90 som är en senare modell flygandes någonstans inom Sverige idag?
Aviator
2014-10-25 08:00:30
SV: MD80
Wikipedia (English) har för en gångs skull mycket bra info om DC9/MD80
Johan Å
2014-10-25 07:36:24
SV: MD80
Är det stora skillnader på planen i MD 80 serien ?
MD-80 vs. MD87 tex
West Coast
2014-10-24 21:38:09
SV: MD80
DAT MD-87 har hoppat in då och då, senast för Malmö Aviation och en Apollo charter Visby - Split för någon månad sedan.
Anders Karlsson
2014-10-24 20:38:32
SV: MD80
Jag har bestämt för mig att det flygs extra charter med MD80 ibland fortfarande i dessa dagar. Pålitlig maskin det där.
Boeing
2014-10-22 17:03:08
SV: MD80
Byggdes och såldes som B717, då Boeing tagit över Douglas.
Mc Donalds
2014-10-22 16:59:46
SV: MD80
En MD alltså!
Kanske man kan få den med happy meal?
Big Mack Donnell
2014-10-22 16:01:30
SV: MD80
Svaret är ja och nej.
Boeing 717 hette från början MD-95...
Men tycker att det är som att svära i kyrkan att kalla en McDonnell Douglas för Boeing. Det heter ju inte Boeing DC-3!
DC-10
2014-10-22 15:05:58
SV: MD80
@Fjullejulle B717 är en helt ny modell. Skrovet är visserligen baserat på MD-87.
Men i övrigt en ny modell. Alltså inga "små detaljer"! Kolla fakta istället för att tro!
Fjullejulle
2014-10-22 14:51:36
SV: MD80
Skaffa dig ett liv istället för att hänga upp dig på små detaljer.
MD80 görs inte längre och nya uppgraderingar med små detaljer som motor eller avionik spelar ingen roll.
Du skulle vi inte kunna kalla några flygplan överhuvudtaget för vad de är idag.
Syns lång väg att det är MD80 och ingen Boeing.
Julle
2014-10-22 08:52:57
SV: MD80
Att kalla B717 för MD80 är väl liiite magstarkt va?
B717 har helt andra motorer samt avionik i cockpit.
Det kanske ser ut som en MD87 av en icke insatta.
Men svar nej.
SAS inhyrda B717 via BLUE 1 är inga MD80.

Så svaret blir:
Inga MD80 flyger till/från Sverige just nu.

Fille
2014-10-22 00:01:47
SV: MD80
Bara kolla FR24 så ser du!
Ganska många SAS flighter som flygs med MD 80 än idag.
 

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